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2000/2008

What happened to the 2000 edition of the WCH? Will there be a 2008 edition of the WCH? Why is this even an issue? This is a tournament that must be held every 4 years. Nyrmetros 01:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- Has there been any word on the 2008 edition of the IIHF World Cup of Hockey? Nyrmetros 04:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They aren't doing one in 2008, and why was the 2008 World Championship result counted as the World Cup? I erased that, they are two very different tournaments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.68.108.240 (talk) 16:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's like once every eight years... 1996, 2004, 2011 (a year early...) 65.93.14.196 (talk) 08:22, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ice

This page needs disambiguation, to include the word "ice" in the header. I am inclined to move it to World Cup of ice hockey but if that doesn't really fit with the WCH then I will move it to World Cup of Hockey (ice). Anyone got any suggestions? OK? Moriori 08:48, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)

Is there another World Cup of Hockey ? IMO, if there isn't another, there is no need to 'disambig'. -- PFHLai 08:53, 2004 Aug 31 (UTC)

It's not called the world cup of ice hockey, it's called the world cup of hockey. I realized that this was important when I tried changing some field hockey links earlier this year. If there is a 2004 World Cup of (field) Hockey then please let us know! Earl Andrew 18:10, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

There have been a men's World Hockey Cup and women's World Hockey Cup for many years . See the following website, http://www.planetfieldhockey.com/PFH/Site-View-0-158. The hockey cup is contested by many countries. The final 16 at the last men's hockey cup were (in finish order) Germany, Australia, Korea, Pakistan, Argentina, England, Malaysia , New Zealand, India, Spain, Japan , South Africa, Belgium, Poland and Cuba. (India, where hockey is the national sport, probably has more field hockey players than all the ice hockey players in the world). Note at Field Hockey the following -- In the English-speaking world outside Canada and the United States, it is generally referred to simply as "hockey", as ice hockey is not commonly played there. Go to Hockey and you quite correctly reach a disambiguation page, and for Wiki to be consistent any mention of hockey elsewhere should also be disambiguated, especially as the ice people chose a name that can confuse. Moriori 20:32, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)

Oh, yes, go right ahead and disambiguate 'ice hockey' and 'field hockey'. However, please don't move and change the name of this page to anything other than "World Cup of Hockey". If the name of the page is not the same as the event (e.g. World Cup of ice hockey ???), it would be very confusing.

Perhaps World Cup (hockey) should not redirect to World Cup of Hockey, but we can have World Cup (ice hockey) for that. Perhaps World Cup (hockey) should redirect to a (long) disambiguation page instead, with links to all the top level hockey championships played on various surfaces. Would be helpful to also mention the Stanley Cup and the IIHF World Championship if anyone gets confused. Ditto for the roller hockey championship. I don't know how to name this page, though. Any ideas, anyone ? -- PFHLai 21:18, 2004 Aug 31 (UTC)

World Cup (field hockey) should also be created then. 132.205.15.4 01:57, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

2000

Why was there no World Cup in 2000? Eight years seems like an unusual interval...I know the Canada Cup wasn't always four years, but it was never eight, was it. Adam Bishop 19:28, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I've always wondered that myself. Might have something to do with the olympics. Anyways here is my solution: we keep this page as is, and for the field hockey, it should be at World Hockey Cup, as that appears to be the name of the tournament. Earl Andrew 22:25, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

OK, seems reasonable, but there will be some disambs that need doing. I think PFHLai is right that World Cup (hockey) should not redirect to World Cup of Hockey. What do you think? Moriori 23:45, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)

Thoughts on merging this with Canada Cup? --HalifaxRage 01:32, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is no common interval between World Cups of Hockey. They are just held when NHL feels like it.192.194.238.242 14:05, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Canada Cup was a different entity. It was "retired" to make way for The World Cup of Hockey, which became redundant after a single run when NHL players were admitted to play in the Olympics. The World Cup and the 1972 Canada Russia Summit Series should certainly link to the Canada Cup, but each tournament should remain in it's own page. The three entities are not ambiguous.156.34.189.34 04:47, 4 October 2006 (UTC)Wildman[reply]

agree Mayumashu 07:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Something ought to be added explaining the odd intervals of this tourney, as found here in the discussion page.

Duplicates Canada Cup (hockey)

Some of the content on this page should be removed because it duplicates the Canada Cup page too much. If there are no objections... Kevlar67 02:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The pre-1996 details should removed.--SaskatchewanSenator 20:45, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Canada Cup

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I don't think that'd be a good idea, as the discussion above mentions. 132.205.44.5 00:28, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since it's the same series I think a merge is a good idea. Nibios 23:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree on Merge. Lejman 02:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree - keep them separate, with wikilinks to the other as appropriate. There is enough history for each to support its own article. — MrDolomite • Talk 04:37, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Agree Since it is the same event, I believe that these articles should be merged and notably mention that the event was renamed in the 90's154.20.21.23 (talk) 05:39, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree Not the same event. Info that is duplicated on this page should just be removed and only mention how it is looked upon as the successor to the Canada Cup. -Djsasso (talk) 15:04, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I think a source needs to be found that says either it's a renaming or a replacement. The two articles disagree on the point (neither is referenced). Depending on what a source said would depend on how I voted: renaming, I'd vote merge; replacement, I'd vote no merge. --JD554 (talk) 09:30, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree: It is NOT the same event, and there's no reason to integrate them. --ChrisP2K5 (talk) 04:01, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. The NHL web site (which hosts the official World Cup of Hockey site) includes the Canada Cup history on its World Cup history page: [1]. Thus, the same event, or at least so closely related as to require no separation. Powers ^T 11:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Finding the results listed together on one page is not enough to prove that it is the same event.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 18:14, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly a successor event, though. Why else would the World Cup of Hockey present the Canada Cup history as its own? Powers ^T 19:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly Disagree These need to be separated. The Canada Cup is an integral part of Canadian hockey history... the hunk of aluminum known as the World Cup has not en capsuled the kind if history the Canada Cup has. DMighton (talk) 08:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Agree it is essentially the same tournament. Dbrodbeck (talk) 04:32, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Totally agree with JD554. All these merge votes with the argument "it's the same tournament" and all these no merge votes with the argument "it's not the same tournament" are pretty moot unless we can get consensus on whether it is the same tournament. And that requires sources. The NHL cite is good, but is it enough? -- Jao (talk) 05:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly Disagree dont know if its too late to say my two cents here. I would say the very fact that the canada cup was occuring regularly and the world cup has been held every 8 years basically...Id even argue the importance of the tournment. Ottawa4ever (talk) 13:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus is no merge

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Assessment

I have assessed this as a Start Class, as it contains enough detail and organization to be above a Stub Class, and of mid-importance, as I feel that many readers would have some familiarity, if not an in-depth knowledge, of the topic of the article. Cheers, CP 23:20, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

2012 World Cup of Hockey

Hosting Rights

Following the new outline by bothe the NHL and IIHF, nations expressing interest in hosting the World Cup had to submit bids. The three nations who put themselves in contention were Sweden, Russia and Switzerland Midway through the bidding process however Sweden announced it would change its bid to a joint bid with neighbouring Finland. After a long and complex evalution of each bid from the prospective hosts the joint Sweden/Finland bid won the rights to host the 2012 World Cup of Hockey.

Qualification

Unlike previous tournaments nations will haveto qualify fo the right to take part in the world cup. Sweden and Finland automaticaly qualify because of the fact that the are the host nations. Canada and the USA also qualify automaticaly as they are the only nations outside of Europe ranked in the top twenty according to the IIHF.

Twelve nations (all from Europe) will participate in a qualifycation process similair to that used in European football. The twelve nations are split into two groups, consisting of six countries each, with the teams occupying first and second in thier respective qualification groups earning the right to partake in the 2012 World Cup of Hockey.

Qualification Groups

GROUP 1: Germany, Slovakia, Italy, Austria, Norway, Czech Republic

GROUP 2: Russia, Belarus, Latvia, Ukraine, Denmark, Switzerland

Hosting Rights

While not yet specified, it seems as though Sweden will host more matches than Finland during the tournament, including the final. Gothenburg, Malmo and Stockholm look to be the Swedish cities to host matches whlst Helsinki and Turku are likely to host all matches in Finland. Gothenburg is set to contracted with the hosting rights of the final. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lingodingo (talk • contribs) 17:04, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was announced for 2011 instead of 2012... [2] 65.93.14.196 (talk) 08:22, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

rqImg

A photo of the trophy would be good. 76.66.198.171 (talk) 08:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

done Traveler100 (talk) 19:58, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

General note

Though the mistake hasn't been made in this article, players who participated in this tournament (including the predessor Canada Cup), have erroneous 'gold/silver/bronze' medals added to their respective bio articles. This medals don't exist in this tournament (just like they don't in the NHL playoffs). GoodDay (talk) 20:18, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2004 Trophy

Just curious. Anybody got an image of the '04 WC Trophy. GoodDay (talk) 20:39, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]